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cool - great design and new ideas
Posted Jul 03, 2009 8:07 PM by Jergitsch_Wilhelm

this is really great, it looks like it was made in a star wars movie :-)
Posted Jul 03, 2009 8:07 PM by Martina_Mühlbacher

it must be interresting to use it
Posted Jul 04, 2009 8:07 AM by iris21

nice work
Posted Jul 04, 2009 8:07 AM by iris21

no, it isnt made in in star wars or anything else, i just let 2 streams collide in one system; this should be an impulse for a new design line
Posted Jul 04, 2009 8:07 AM by Jergitsch_Wilhelm

very nice!!! but the colors are very cheesy ;)
Posted Jul 04, 2009 11:07 AM by sluggo99

:-)
Posted Jul 04, 2009 4:07 PM by Jergitsch_Wilhelm

Really nice concept, great organic shape.
Posted Jul 06, 2009 11:07 PM by efuchs

a funky shape, but did you consider that every city has hundreds of bus stops, paid for by the taxpayer. To build this would cost a fortune. For every one of these bus stops that would be built, it would prevent someone from going to college or being treated in hospital, which is either short sighted or a little selfish...
Posted Jul 09, 2009 11:07 PM by kavbar

well, i you have ever heared from FLV´s you would know that it is the only way to produce with less energy and less costs a houndreds of peaces. Once u build a form you can use it in anyway again. That would make it a lot cheaper than buildings made of steel. The transport of the station to its place is also no problem because you can build it in for example 4 modules witch are easy to handle, and because of its weight 2 man could lift a peace
Posted Jul 10, 2009 10:07 AM by Jergitsch_Wilhelm

|it is cheaper - it is less weight - it is a chance| thats why we should try out new forms with new materials
Posted Jul 10, 2009 10:07 AM by Jergitsch_Wilhelm

As i said, it looks cool, like something out of a Nickelodeon cartoon, but cartoons aren't real. And they're not new either. You say you're using new materials but you haven't said what the stop is made out of. You are following a similar approach to zaha hadid when she designed tram stops in innsbruck, with small irregular pieces forming a larger amorphous whole, but they were not cheap, in fact they were very expensive to build, and there were only 4 of them. If you were to say that this design was for a one off bus stop, a piece of sculpture, you may be able to justify it. But to say it is the bus stop of the future is naive, or perhaps even a little arrogant. People are voting for you because it looks 'cool', like something from 'star wars', so you can continue to deny reality if you wish, but i worry for a future filled with such superficial ego-driven design.
Posted Jul 10, 2009 3:07 PM by kavbar

ok, again, FLV´s are a composite technology, that allows a serial production, just google for it :-). This lightweight structure are made of fibre composites and have: •Low thermal expansion • Corrosion resistance • Gradual failure • High dynamic strength • Good impact behaviour • Fewer components • Low material waste • Good mouldability If you have any other questions, please write me an email that i can answer you, in this comment box is a bit less room for comments :-). That you bring me in a context to zaha hadid is a pleasure for me, thank you.
Posted Jul 11, 2009 8:07 AM by Jergitsch_Wilhelm

this is a great example for new solutions and the composite technology is the technology for the future, go on man !!!
Posted Jul 11, 2009 9:07 AM by martin

a architectural comparison to zaha hadid is not a compliment
Posted Jul 11, 2009 2:07 PM by kavbar

and again it is worrying that you think it so. None of this is a personal attack, but your approach to design, and that of similar designers, is very very worrying. i googled flv's. one of the first links showed me images of a formula one car and prototype aircraft. it is NOT ecologically or economically viable, so PLEASE stop saying that it is.
Posted Jul 11, 2009 2:07 PM by kavbar

Not the most practical idea, especially in terms of construction, but I don't see why transport networks can't have an occasional landmark.
Posted Jul 11, 2009 10:07 PM by J Roberts

i think its great that a project can produce a discussion, my father is building FLV´s for a concern in europe and it is not as complex as it looks on the first view. It is right that you can easily build a serial numbers of pieces, but it is complex to build the first form, it is like a foundry or so. Anyway i like that project because it is really new and gives a lot of discussion staff, and only by discussion problems can be detached at the beginning.
Posted Jul 12, 2009 9:07 AM by Martina_Mühlbacher

I do not really know any of your designs or what kind of job you do kavbar, but i dont think you are an architectural expert to say that a architectural comparison to zaha hadid is not a compliment. She is one the top 5 architects in the world building offices, theaters and of course bus stations all over the world. I can not believe so many people be off base. The only argument you delivered for your position was that you have googled and the first thing you have seen was an example in formular one. But google is bigger that the first 2 rows :-). New techniques always finds their way first in protypes and buisness with high costs, but i think i have explained enough about the chance beyond it. To say the design makes as high costs as going to college is very naive and shows that you do not have any anticipation about it. I think that the reason for your enuciation is that your design is a cube nobody votes for. Your frustation is ok, but please dont act out your feelings again organic forms and the possibility to use them in future in here. If you dont like them it is ok, it is your statement.
Posted Jul 12, 2009 9:07 AM by Jergitsch_Wilhelm

Check out the design by Future Systems (National Library of Prague )www.future-systems.com
Posted Jul 13, 2009 9:07 PM by Ethan

wilhelm, i was never getting personal, but just have very strong feelings regarding the real world problems facing architecture. The blind comments about my architectural ability and expertise come across as very unprofessional. There is more to design than aesthetics. Designers are duty bound to solve problems, not contribute to them, and that is why i made these points. I do not doubt that you have ability, especially in aesthetics, but I asked you about the realities of construction economics to see if there was more here than an image. i looked at your website to see where you were coming from, and you have a lot of ability as a visualist. Maybe more so than as a designer in my opinion, so good luck with the movie projects. But if you are considering a future in design i would recommend you read a book called 'cradle 2 cradle' by William McDonough. It could help to add real substance to what you create. and try not to get angry with critics. criticism is the key to improving quality.
Posted Jul 15, 2009 2:07 AM by kavbar

Its nice artwork, but what materials will be used to take live and dead loads? I'm particulary worried about people tripping over the bike poles, the strength of the bike poles, and people abandoning their bikes on the bike poles.
Posted Jul 17, 2009 4:07 PM by Critique

I have to agree with kavbar. We think rather alike, looking past the initial aethestics. Anyways I'm done with my comments for now. Hope you don't take it personally. It looks really good on the computer.
Posted Jul 17, 2009 5:07 PM by Critique

For a bus stop, it's a little overboard there is a fine line between function and what looks good, I would say its a little to far on the asthetic side of things. This will be for students mostly...maybe integrate some colors at least from the U and make it safer..those bike racks look like a safety hazard.
Posted Jul 18, 2009 4:07 AM by jake1

very elegant design
Posted Jul 19, 2009 7:07 AM by francis

the usage is ok i think, there is also enough place for more funktions
Posted Jul 19, 2009 7:07 AM by francis

This design will be outdated in no time. Looking at it again I realised it already is: it looks like a 1960's disco dancing room. sad. Imagine this thing scattered all over your own town...
Posted Jul 22, 2009 7:07 PM by Archino

meh. an attempt to be wacky and interesting - but failing.
Posted Jul 29, 2009 1:07 PM by COLLECTIVE-atelier

Captain: Oh! Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? Kids: SpongeBob SquarePants! Captain: Absorbent and yellow and porous is he! Kids: SpongeBob SquarePants! Captain: If nautical nonsense be something you wish... Kids: SpongeBob SquarePants! Captain: Then drop on the deck and flop like a fish!
Posted Jul 30, 2009 3:07 AM by tradarch kc

WTF?!
Posted Jul 31, 2009 4:07 PM by yomama

beautiful design
Posted Aug 02, 2009 10:08 AM by helson

i think the idea is to take a trip on the bus, not on acid. next.
Posted Aug 02, 2009 8:08 PM by jon999999

Was this at the 1960 worlds fair in NY? Looks like something out of this months issue of Architect Mag.
Posted Aug 28, 2009 12:08 PM by DLamb

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Submitted by Jergitsch_Wilhelm on July 03, 2009

This design should be the bus stop of the future. It appears to the streams of the vehicles on the street and on the people on the sidewalk and let them flow into a waiting station. Elliptic chambers in the roof and the wall let enough light in it and make an atmosphere that reminds on streams going through them. The organic flow and the fact that it is made of one part should show the connection between both sides. Its color and form is recognizable.
Contents in the bus station: a wireless lan hot spot, seats, bicycle poles, a digital timetable, a light-band in front of the station;
There are also plates for advertisement and wind and rain safety from behind the seats.

All in all i hope you enjoy my newest design and vote with great 5 stars for me :-) , for any questions or new ideas you can write me an email to jergitsc@sbox.tugraz.at or go to my homepage www.schaubilder.at

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