Although it's early days I've noticed a rather low overall rating. But no-one's commented so I don't know what you don't like. Are there issues with the facilities? Does that woman on the poster annoy you? Let me know what you think, I'll try and respond to your points.
Posted Jul 11, 2009 10:07 PM by J Roberts
your design seems to work well. the only issue I have with it is that its not practical to enclose the bikes with all that glass. also consider the snow and muck will get the lower part of the windows rather dirty and increase maintenance issues. consider metal panel curtain wall for 3 the first three feet.
Posted Jul 12, 2009 6:07 PM by rollin0219
as requested, some observations. using modular design for such a project is a noble idea, but what is the module you have used? it looks like this design is divisible into 3 parts, no more. the project entitled 'flexible bus stop' is a much better example of workable modular design.
Also, why concrete. no explanation, and not the most ecologically sound choice for small bus shelters. high energy input, low recycling potential, and structurally unnecessary at this scale.
shop would only be necessary at major hubs, and should be more open. it is a commercial enterprise and should be visible to customers.
you say the materials are somewhat cold looking, but you picked them. you are creating your own problems unfortunately, which is the opposite of what architecture is about. this is the biggest downfall for me. also, is the crimson painted on, or is it an integrated coating on metal panels, for instance. if its paint, it will erode and require a lot of maintanance. i personally don't like the colours, but that is just a personal opinion.
saying wifi is available isnt necessarily a bad thing, but who cares. its not a design concern, and anyone can say it, you know. every design here could have wifi,big whoop.
ticket vending machine is a good idea, but should not be incorporated into a concrete structure. once the concrete is set, thats it, no upgrades without demolition.
i hope this helps, don't mean to be harsh, because there are a LOT worse designs doing a whole lot better, so maybe if you work up something new you might get lucky, or indeed respond to these points with vigour.
Posted Jul 15, 2009 2:07 AM by kavbar
Many thanks for your feedback. With regards the staffed shop, the intentions are to deter vandalism and provide a stepchange in passenger facilities (e.g. advice on the right tickets, help during service disruption). I admit to being uncertain whether it is entirely necessary - perhaps a mobile catering van could serve passengers in the morning peak? I've seen it happen at a local railway station.
To clarify, the wall structure is formed from: 1.75m concrete, 1.75m glass, 1.5m glass doors and 1.5m coloured (all 3m high). Each section uses a combination of these e.g. the central waiting area uses 4 concrete panels, 4 glass and 4 doors. Larger order quantities (e.g. for other stops) of these panels may lead to bulk-buying economies. I will certainly consider the use of curtain walls to prevent damage, and perhaps shuttered concrete may be more appealing visually.
Regarding the coloured finishes, some good points have been made. Paint is perhaps most practical, since most materials will eventually deteriorate (e.g. discolouration, graffiti) and need refreshing - paint seems a sensible option since it can be covered and replaced with different colours in line with the fashion at the time.
I will revise the design over the next few weeks, and I appreciate the comments, keep them coming. I'm hoping to study Urban Studies and Planning at Uni in October, and this exercise could prove quite useful in gauging and dealing with public opinion...
Posted Jul 15, 2009 7:07 PM by J Roberts
Putting a commercial interest inside a busy transit stop is a WONDERFUL idea! Think 'airport terminal' but less intrusive/expensive.
Posted Jul 16, 2009 7:07 PM by upandoutward
Good luck in your studies!!
I have to agree with kavbar. My philosphy is a bus stop should just be a bus stop. Everything else could be put besides the bus stop if needed, or could already be existing inside the university, which is located about 15 meters from the bus stop.
If I was to revise this, I would first read up more on your favourite architects and their design philosophy, basic concepts of architecture, etc. Good luck!
Posted Jul 17, 2009 4:07 PM by Critique
"does the women on the poster annoy you?"
-Personally I don't think great architectural works should have big ads on them, but that's just my personal opinion. I'm sure there are exceptions.
Posted Jul 17, 2009 5:07 PM by Critique
That chick for sure annoys me. She has nice lips though ha ha. Keep at it...Remember it's a bus stop...
Posted Jul 18, 2009 5:07 AM by jake1
Once again thank you for the comments. I understand your points about the shop being perhaps too much. It would need to serve more than just bus stop users to be viable, and attract custom from across the university. Currently in the form of a newsagent, it probably won't. When I revise the design I will use a more flexible set-up for retail provision. And the adverts (and the woman gazing wistfully towards a better tomorrow) will stay, since they generate revenue which can be reinvested into the bus service.
Posted Jul 18, 2009 8:07 PM by J Roberts
Good news: having taken on board previous comments, I have created a substantially revised design, under the title of 'More than a bus stop?'. The woman in the poster is sadly no more, but the rest of the design further develops the modular structure and addresses key concerns.
Posted Jul 29, 2009 10:07 PM by J Roberts
Posted Jul 31, 2009 5:07 PM by yomama
I think it is too sterile. It looks like an extruded box with color added. It is too machine-like and lacks the human touch. Like so much bad modernism. There is no relationship to the human body.
Posted Aug 05, 2009 2:08 PM by BriConn2
Are you primarily a graphics designer? The roof would contribute to heat sink effect.
Posted Aug 28, 2009 12:08 PM by DLamb
The stop uses a modular construction, using prefabricated concrete and glass panels. In this design, there are three units – a bike park, waiting area and shop. The materials used are somewhat cold-looking, so a bright crimson colour is used for the roof and details to counterbalance this. Plants are placed at each end to soften the visual impact.
:: Passenger Comfort
Seats are provided in the enclosed waiting area, and a veranda keeps the rain off the platforms. WiFi is available, and refreshments and newspapers can be purchased from the shop. Given that buses can often be delayed (sorry, it’s true) those passengers kept waiting may make impulse purchases. Customer Information Screens provide up-to-date information on bus running, these are accompanied by automated announcements. Poster slots can be used by the operator, or sold for advertising.
To help remain punctual, 2 platforms are used to allow 2 buses to load and unload simultaneously. Tickets are available from a Ticket Vending Machine, and also the shop – with pre-purchased tickets, boarding times should be quicker allowing for a prompt departure.
The modular structure could be used across the network, with different units built where required – for instance a small residential stop might not need the coffee shop, but the city centre stop might need 2! The structure could also be used on light rail stops. This would help create a unified look.